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PR.com (Allison
Kugel): Your new book, Venus On Fire, Mars On Ice,
describes 100% the issues that I was having in my own
relationship, and it has helped us quite a bit.
John Gray: Hooray!
PR.com: We have a
fourteen month old. I don’t know if you have seen this pattern in
the therapy that you do, but having a child accentuates the
differences between men and women, tenfold.
John Gray: It magnifies
it dramatically, and it makes you more dependent on each other. It
brings up those issues.
PR.com: I
particularly love the two page cartoon in the center of this book.
It’s spot on! But what I didn’t know is, hormonally, men and women
are actually wired to think and behave in different ways. I always
believed it was just our preferences.
John Gray: It gets to the
root of the matter, and then we can honor those differences
because many of them are physiological. Some of them are
preferences, some of them are simply temperaments. People are
unique and different, but when you get down to the level of how we
are coping with stress, this is a hardwiring that goes on in our
bodies. We are naturally drawn to situations that help us cope
with stress. And we assume our partner would be thinking and
feeling the same way, when quite often it’s different. Then, that
gives rise to misunderstanding. So the greater the stress in our
lives, the more the differences [between men and women] will tend
to show up.
PR.com: How did
you come to these conclusions, regarding hormonal differences, in
the way men and women express and diffuse their stress? And when
did you first conduct the research for this book?
John Gray: Back in the
early eighties is when I first started developing the ideas of
Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. Everybody kept
saying, “Why? How do you know?” My answer in those years was,
“I’ve got a counseling practice, and I’m married myself, and women
almost all say the same things (laughs) about their
husbands, and about themselves.” There were themes that are very
universal in almost every household. When we are under stress is
when these differences show up the most. When women are under
stress their brains tend to speed up, and men’s tend to slow down.
In the nineties when the book was very popular, that is when most
of the universities began having gender studies departments. Brain
scans were developed and every department had brain scans and you
could start seeing how men’s and women’s brains reacted
differently in situations. They would call me up and say, “What
does this mean?” because I was a well known expert on gender. I
continued to follow the miles of research, which has been done
showing the differences between men and women. What I do is put it
together in a coherent package to apply it in useful ways. No one
has really done that. What inspired this book (Venus On Fire,
Mars On Ice) is the research that was done at UCLA on
oxytocin. It’s the hormone that lowers stress for women. In the
nineties the drug companies discovered that oxytocin was not only
the nurturing hormone, but was also the hormone responsible for
women’s sexual response.
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