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PR.com (Allison
Kugel): Why go back, at this point in your career, and make a film
for only twenty-five thousand dollars?
Edward Burns: A couple of
different reasons. Given what the movie is about, this idea of
having your dreams and holding on to them, fighting for them, and
what it could cost you and how you are going to disappoint people
if you chase them… my producing partner, Aaron Lubin, and I had a
lot of conversations about who I was as a twenty-four year old kid
when I was trying to make The Brothers McMullen. So we
had McMullen on the brain. When we were deciding our
approach to this production, we had spent the last couple of years
trying to get another film off the ground. You attach a bunch of
well known actors, which we did, and then you take it out into the
marketplace and you try to raise the money that way. We found that
we didn’t enjoy that process. Any time we were asking somebody for
money there is a lot of interference that comes along with it:
notes on the script, ideas of who they want to cast, changes to
the title. So we just thought, given all of these conversations
about The Brothers McMullen, what if we tried to do that
model again? What if we challenged ourselves and limited ourselves
to twenty-five thousand dollars, shot it in under twelve days,
only used a three-man crew and got the locations for free? And
trying to get those name actors, it’s a long and painful process.
We thought, “Look at all those kids [in New York].” I was one of
them! [After] McMullen, we all got careers out of that
movie, and it was probably the most fun I’ve ever had making a
film. So we wanted to re-create that. Once we jumped in we fully
embraced the size and scale of the production. The actors, Matt
Bush, Kerry Bishe and Anna Wood were willing to do their own hair
and makeup, wear their own clothes and help us out when we needed
assistance, crew-wise.
PR.com: I watched
the film, and it wasn’t short on story or on entertainment value.
It certainly delivered in those capacities. You could tell that
there were scenes where it was a single camera set up or where you
were using natural light…
Edward Burns: That’s
right…
PR.com: So why
don’t more filmmakers make films this way?
Edward Burns: I think you
have to be willing to make smaller stories. It would be very
difficult to make an action film on that budget, or a thriller, or
anything that would require car chases or a lot of extras. All of
those things would be almost impossible to do with that small of a
crew and with that low budget. But if you like small
character-driven stories then this is a model that can absolutely
work for you, and those are the only kind of films I’ve ever made.
We made a film like The Groomsmen (2006) for three
million dollars and had to deal with a bunch of headaches that
came along with asking someone for three million dollars. We could
have made that movie for twenty-five thousand dollars with a bunch
of unknowns, and probably made a better movie and had a lot more
fun. You have to look at the list of comprises that you’re going
to be ok with. If you’re ok with working on a short schedule and
re-working your script that so it’s smaller in scale, then this is
a model that works for you. Or, you have to deal with someone who
is going to give you the money and change your title and your
dialogue, and tell you who to put in the movie. That’s a list of
compromises I’ve never been ok with.
PR.com: You’re
all about creative control.
Edward Burns: Yes.
PR.com: Are you a
control freak in general, or just when it comes to making movies?
Edward Burns: I think
just when it comes to making movies. Quite honestly, it’s less
about being a control freak, and more just out of necessity. I’ve
gone through the process where you don’t have all of the control.
Then the movie comes out, and let’s say it doesn’t do as well as
you had hoped. Ten years later that movie lives on a shelf, or on
a DVD, or on cable television and other people don’t know the
story behind it, only you do.
PR.com: They
don’t know the politics of the situation, or the places where you
had to compromise and you didn’t want to compromise.
Edward Burns: Exactly.
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